Happy to debit your account immediately even if products are not available.
I tried these guys once, fortunately paying through PayPal so did not have trouble getting a refund. I have tried again as they have stuff I want. Again they have debited my PayPal account immediately and my order now shows "awaiting picking". Not sure at this stage if this order will work. Will update. However, do not attempt to purchase from them unless through PayPal / credit card or some other means of getting your money back.
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