VBulletin basically does the job of a forum software, but leaves issue undetected at first, that should be revealed before purchasing. Most of the issue cannot be seen by the general public, as they are hidden in the password protected user area. None of their software will validate via the W3, which to me, clearly means that the programmers are not concerned with testing their software to make sure it is written to standards and does not contain basic underlying errors.
Much much worse, is that the forum produces page after page of duplicate content, because every page can be addressed in many ways. Your Google webmaster tools account will very shortly be filled with duplicate Title tags and Duplicate Descriptions and there is literally nothing you can do about it. VBulletin's response was to create a new version 5, instead of fixing the issues with version 4 first. To their credit, they do seem to be continuing to work on V4.
The support team seems to be working hard to try and help, but they do not appear to be supported by the programmers, so any issue that has any type of complexity to it, will not be solved. At least that has been my experience.
If VBulletin were cheap software, I would not complain to much, but it is quit expensive, so you would think it would be very well written as such. Unfortunately it is programmed more like cheap software, with obvious and seriously written flaws.
I cannot recommend VBulletin, nor can I advise against it, since I cannot recommend any other software that might be better, although I would think there would be. Should you decide to purchase, be aware of the duplicate content issues, that you will face. I would run any of there forum pages through the W3 validator, so you can get a feel for the quality or lack there of, also.
I just need a simple forum for my website, and I thought vBulletin would be a good idea since it's very popular.
When I tried to order the forum and I paid $400 for the full package, as I wanted mobile users to view the forum as well ... then all the troubles started.
Firstly, I used my debit card and it was declined but the charge was taken (I am not sure if it will be authorized or not but the screen showed the card was declined). So I tried another card and it also got declined .... I tried it again ensuring all the details are there but it got declined .... so I used PayPal even though it costs me more to convert to USD but I said PayPal would be the solution, and it worked.
Now after the payment was made, I followed the installation step by step and I couldn't get to install the forum on my website!
So I contacted the support through their ticket system and I barely got answers that helped me! I am now left frustrated after being their customer for barely a few days and I see their refund policy states once you download the software you can't claim a refund - that is so disgusting!!
I am so so upset with this company!!
Let me preface by saying that I've been a vBulletin customer for over 10 years.
vBulletin, at one time, was the pinnacle of forum software. Gradually however, it has completely lost its way among other forum software competitiors. In my opinion, the fall started when it was aquired by Internet Brands a few years ago. Most of the original vBulletin founders and creators left the company, leaving it to careless corporate management and incompetent developers.
That said, the problems started with the incarnation of VB4, which debuted under the new management and developers. It was basically an update of previous software code written by the vBulletin founders. That's when the problems started however, when the new incompetent developers started adding to and mangling the original code. It has gradually became useable forum software, but is still very server resource intensive and bug riddled. Not to mention, no major updates have been made to it in almost a year. Coincidentally, development seemed to cease on VB4 around the time VB5 development came into full force, thus customers using VB4 were left in the dark.
That brings us to the newest vBulletin incarnation, VB5. Needless to say, VB5 is shockingly awful. Seemingly written by coding amateurs, it's buggy, slow as molasses, server intensive and lacks a tremendous amount of features that VB4 offered. Also lately, new versions seem to be rolling out at a snails pace, with little in the way of improvements. It's basically a shell of what vBulletin once was.
To add to the fire, vBulletin employees also seem to have issue in dealing with their paying customers. As one myself, I've personally been treated very condescendingly by the staff/moderators. They seem to have no professional regard for what they say, with little to no common courtesy. Posts in the vBulletin forums that don't praise them or the company seemingly either disappear or are closed by the staff, thus leaving hardly no way to give advice toward improving the software. Also, often very snide remarks are made by staff before a thread closure.
To sum it up, if I were in the market for forum software, I would NOT use vBulletin. There are many great alternatives out there for much cheaper prices, a ton more features and staff who care and aren't flat out rude...
Was a long time user of this software. Version 3.x was the premiere software at the time it was released. Since then, with new owners, new developers, and (just as important), serial departures of staff- developers, customer service reps, project managers, and marketing folks, this software needs a post-mortem. Not only does the current software version (5.x) not work in a production environment, but they never fulfilled their promises about what would be delivered in 4.x (after promising many features, when new staff came on board, they disavowed ever making the promises).
In short, the current state of vBulletin is a mockery of what it once was. If the phrase "Buyer Beware" ever had a more applicable meaning than for those who might buy this software, I can't imagine what it might be.
If you buy this software, understand that they will not guarantee that it will work, and if you want a refund, they will deny it as they have a policy that once you download it, you bought it (though, this seems to fly in the face of consumer protection laws...some have reported success with disputing charges with their credit card issuer).
If I could give a lower rating than one star, I would. If you have the misfortune of buying this software, I feel bad for you.
Internet Brands has trashed this once great forum software. What was once the market leader in forum software is now not just a mere shadow of its former self but an unmitigated disaster on a scale that simply cannot be believed.
vBulletin 3.8 was great forum software, then Internet Brands got their grubby corporate hands on it and destroyed it. vBulletin 4 eventually became usable forum software but vBulletin 5 is absolute garbage and isn't fit to be installed on any live website.
This company does not care what its customers think, suggest, or need. They are only interested in the bottom line and it shows. The result is furious customers, third rate forum software and a gradual, slow decline into obsolescence.
If you're looking at purchasing forum software go with Xenforo or IPB. vBulletin is a sinking ship and it is going down fast!
Save your money for better software.
To make this a more positive and constructive post, I'd like to give my constructive criticism.
Internet Brands needs to have a serious paradigm change in their upper management. They need to lower their egos, look less at their own bank accounts and a lot less at the business numbers and spend a whole lot more time with their customers. They need to get in touch with them, make amends with them, admit to being the cause for all this bad feedback and let everyone know they want to change, will change and how, in great detail. Then they need to follow through and do it ALL THE TIME from that point forward.
IB has lost a lot of trust. Practically all of it. They brought out products time and again in very poor condition, vB5 being the last. They are wasting a lot of the customers money working on getting shoddy work back to a basically a half-way decent quality and they aren't even there yet with vB5. By far not there yet. So vB5 isn't going to be really viable for a lot of customers for its price for a long time.
My suggestion on that has been the same since IB said vB5 is "not beta". That is right. They didn't call it gold, but now, if you buy the software, once you download it, your 30 days of support clock starts ticking. And vB5 isn't gold at all.
At any rate, my simple suggestion is for IB to take vB5 back to beta status and again start listening to customers. Fix the serious issues in vB4 too, like the PHP5.4 support and the IE10 issue. These must be fixed, if you want to save face with any customer IB, new and old.
vB used to be the industry leader for inexpensive forum software. I have been a user for 8 years. vB4 was released as an amazing disaster seen as nothing more than a cash grab. It got even worse over the years with the many paid add ons. People thought they would learn, but much to our surprise vB5 is even worse. Many users left including me.
Jose Sparksnit found this review useful
As other reviewers have mentioned, vBulletin used to be the gold standard in web forum software. I personally run a "Big Board" forum with over 2,000,000 posts and tens of thousands of members based upon version 3.8.x of the software - which dates back to 2001. Since its acquisition by Internet Brands in 2009, vBulletin has suffered one series of catastrophic blunders after another.
Led by a staff that exhibits an unbridled arrogance that is fueled by rapacious and wild avarice, vBulletin.com is a graveyard riddled with incompetent moderators who habitually misinform (and sometimes, outright deceive) their users, all in the greedy interest of making a sale and stifling customer opinions and feedback. Technically, the last few versions of vBulletin are widely panned as unacceptably sub-standard (at best), and disgraceful and borderline nonfunctional. Simply visit the site yourself - you will find functionality slow and nonresponsive, SEO and human-readability of web addresses a terrible regression towards the past, and full featuresets that are common in free forum software puzzlingly missing on this commercial product, which costs more than double its previous iterations.
vBulletin today is a disaster, and there are far superior alternatives available over at Invision Power Board (commercially), or even free forum software, like phpBB and MyBB. Don't be fooled by their glitzy marketing collateral - and learn from the big boards that made the switch to vB5 (like LinuxTips) and then switched back following a huge barrage of failures. Time to kill this forum software for good, and put these idiots out on the unemployment line where they belong.
What was once considered the gold standard is not one of the worst products being sold on the internet. Not sure where to start, but if you do buy this software, do you're self a favor and read the licensed feedback section (hidden unless your a customer) on their forums before you download the software. The reason being is once you download the software you can't request a refund and if you're not a customer you can't read about all the unhappy customers they have until you buy their product.
I would also highly recommend you try and use their own forums on the official vBulletin site before you buy. It should also be noted that their own parent company does not use the latest on any of their own forums, let alone most of their own sites are still running the old Jelsoft version (3.x) because for some reason they don't have confidence to use their own software. Granted they will tell you that those forums are heavily modified and can't be upgraded. Which brings us to the next point, if their own forums are heavily modified you can never upgrade them. I say it's a company not willing to eat their own dog food.
Then there is their current management staff and developers (those who are left). Sr. management doesn't have a clue on running or using a forum. Why else would they not frequent their own support forums. The one Product Manager who actually asked questions in the forums has left or been fired. However staff will say he was not management (confused so are so many others). Try and find his thread asking for suggestions on what to fix next...... yes asking what to fix next. you could start with all the bugs you're required to post in their bug tracker. They don't accept bug posts in their forums. They will tell you it has to go in the tracker or they will not be fixed.
Did I mention you should try their support forums yourself? That's, when the server they are running on, is not down because of broken hardware. Seems those SSD drives don't help with the speed of their site or the longevity of the server itself. You have SSDs on your shared or dedicated server don't you?
What about support, you're 30 day ticket support starts when you download the software. You may not have it installed yet, might be waiting for all those features that where promised (hey we now how that worked out with vB4x) or for the software to actually work. Can't get it installed, then their professional installation may help. Underline "MAY". But before letting them download it for you, make sure if they can't get it installed (as long as you meet the requirements) make sure they will refund you both the installation fee and the software fee.
Don't want their latest half working, slow and feature missing product called vB5, and would like vB 3 (recommended and still unofficially supported from them - really a unsupported product but seeing as all their sites still run this version they still release fixes and updates when they need it) or vB4.x (granted does not work with the latest ie and php and still missing all those features) you're in luck.. well not luck but vB can only sell you the full vB5 but you can downgrade (price not software) your purchase by installing one of the lesser products. confused again, welcome to the wonderful word of vB
My advice stay far away and look elsewhere.
Juan found this review useful
As far as the software goes, go ahead and try it out yourself at vBulletin.COM. You will see how slow, buggy and SEO unfriendly this software is.
If this software is so great then how come NONE of the other Internet Bands owned forum have upgraded to vBulletin 5?
If you are searching for opinions of vBulletin 5 on vBulletins site, you won't find any if you don't already have a vBulletin license, as anyone who gives their opinion about the state of vBulletin and their software has their post moved to the hidden Licensed Customer Feedback Forum.
Why are they hiding the feedback?
If you look at the posts below the 5 star posts are written by vBulletin employees... yet if you went to any of these employees own personal forums, I doubt you would find a single one actually using vBulletin 5. Why is that? Yet they come here and say all these glowing things about it?
If you take a look and see the games these clown are playing and they way they are treating their customers, you would never want to give them your money.
If you are looking for forum software, I would take a good hard look at Xenforo or IP Board. Again I wouldn't waste my money of vBulletin, which is sad as a few years ago, I would have told you not to think twice about getting vBulletin.
As a VB customer for a number of years I was happy to TRUST VB and paid for an upgrade from VB3 To VB4. Some small problems, but I wanted any extra security I could get. So far so good.
When VB 5 came out I checked and was appalled to see how IB and VB had launched an incomplete version to apparently hit a deadline with scant regard for their customers.
I think we have all seen what a total flop VB is.
Regarding the support on VB.org. Many are PAID employees of VB, some are volunteers and are to be applauded for using their own time to assist customers.
However there are major faults with the way VB.org operates. Many of the mods and admins seem more concerned with showing off about how they have the buttons and can "show" the members and VB customers who is in charge. Than actually help them.
With frequent deletions of valid comments and banning of any who they feel are not posting complimentary things about VB or them.
Two things stand out clearly: One= Some of the members and customers who complained about the crap that is VB5 were chastised in public and called stupid for actually trusting VB and purchasing their product! WTF!!!
Secondly: It was brought to the attention of the admins that they were employing as a paid staff member someone who was abusing their staff position and posting confidential information from a customer to VB support in public, on his personal website.
He was and is also allowing self confessed and known hackers and scammers to impersonate others by using a stolen photograph of the victim as their own, and not only refusing to remove this but actually supporting the hackers and scammers.
The result of the official complaint was to be politely told that I could always leave. So much for the ethics of the staff of VB.
My personal recommendation is that anyone who is thinking or purchasing any VB product look elsewhere.
vBulletin was a great product 3-4 years ago but it’s filled with bugs and dated code now. The current version “vBulletin 5” really just needs to be completely rewritten. There are literally 100’s of reported bugs that the developers know about as well as major missing functions from the vBulletin 4 series like the CMS. This was pushed hard in the vBulletin 4 sales days as the more expensive vBulletin Suite package. I have around 100 active clients right now that all run vBulletin 3 or 4. I’ve had a few that have been interested in upgrading so we’ll setup a development site. I put countless hours into upgrading vBulletin 3 or 4 to the current version vBulletin suggest (5.x) and then I let them play with it for a week or two. I’ve yet to get any positive feedback; it’s too slow, error messages all over the place and missing integral functions from previous versions.
It’s sad really; vBulletin was once a flagship company, but that all left in late 2009 when it was bought out by Internet Brands. The lead developers got fired or left within a few months and there has been a LOT of turnover since then as far as project managers and those in charge of development.
If you have money to blow and want to see what $300 will get you, go for it. If you want to do a little research on forums other than vBulletin.com (unlicensed members don’t see the feedback forum) you’ll see that there are a lot of longtime forum owners out there that have tried to switch to vBulletin 5 because the promo emails were saying it’s so great and then realized it was a complete disaster. You see large threads from the members complaining about browser issue, slow load time and missing functions that they had been used to.
If you read this a year from now then it may have given vBulletin enough time to fix everything and it may be a stable product, that’s what happened with vBulletin 4. Sales were pushed hard (just like vb5) and the script was sold as gold, about 18 months before it was ready. The difference this time is it’s the public’s job to report bugs in the software. You have to use the jira ticketing system which is complicated for the average Joe to figure out. You’re actually paying $300 for a basic forum script, and then you have to spend your time reporting all the bugs while your forum runs at a crawl.. go figure
I bought VB5 looked like a slick finished product, got expensive hosting, got it professionally installed. I spent a lot of money generating content, driving traffic and then in one instance my forum collapses. I panic - I kept my VB5 stock, did not change a thing, except for follow all instructions for updates. Now, I have to buy support packages to fix my problems. If you are not a technical person, and you expect VB5 to be an investment, it's not. It's a liability. It's better to use an older version of VB or another solution. VB5 needs another year of bug fixes or everyone needs to anti-up and start a class action. I work for a major auto company that has released cars that fell under class action. It just takes one motivated pissed off person who knows a lawyer or a pissed off VB customer that happens to be a lawyer - maybe it will bring down and bankrupt the company, and give rise to a better solution.
Brandon Sheley found this review useful
I placed an order and payment was taken. (confirmed by my credit card company).
vbulletin emailed me to say payment was declined and no reason give.
They then emailed to say they were refunding the payment and wait 7 days.
I have been a customer with this company for some time now. With the release of vBulletin 4 people trusted the company completely, but at the moment it seems that this trust is gone now even with me.
It all started with the releases 4.0 to 4.0.8 does releases where not so good they tried to fix stuff but there was no logic into the fixing done. The biggest example is the style system including the stylevars. The fixes where spread into 2 to 3 releases so that meant people needed to adjust the template system a few times if you where unlucky. In that time period many style developers left the vBulletin scene. After 4.0.8 it got a bit better but fixing the issues concentrated on forum only parts the CMS, Blog, Album and Social Groups where for the most part ignored. At the same time a manager Fabian (Vice President of Technology) presented a plan what was coming for vBulletin 4 a very long list and impressive list was presented vBulletin users where impressed, but after a year only a handful of items where done we asked but nothing at all no comments where made. That all changed when Fabian stopped working for vBulletin the next manager came and just said flat out that Fabian could not have given does items because it was never made in a official announcement and he was not in a position to ever make such promises. So we asked what is an official announcement then well with company logo's etc etc etc, to this day all announcements made by vBulletin is without those logo's.
The vBulletin 4 software is not stable at all there still flaws in the CMS if you use it you will get penalty on SEO because of duplicate content on the website. After 3 years its still not fixed. If you use special chars in a line you can also run into trouble (same in the new vBulletin 5). The software is slow its not fully optimized by vBulletin.
The only thing what vBulletin has is support staff they are very good in what they do, but they are in depended contractors. Without the support staff that they have now vBulletin would be in much trouble.
Weare Borg found this review useful
Oh I wish that vBulletin would just be a good company that makes a good product. Because if they succeed, then I succeed. The fact of the matter is though, I have experienced nothing but a headache with vBulletin starting with vB4. The CMS is totally crap and needs to be fixed on many important levels. Sure you can post a article and edit an article. But when you create an article, it automatically creates a forum thread and a CMS URL for that same article. This results in a duplicate URL and Google penalizes your site's SEO. Therefore, your CMS articles don't show up well in Google. This can be crippling for a site. Wordpress is lightyears ahead of vBulletin in this regard.
I've created multiple instances in JIRA (vBulletin's bug reporting program) and nothing has been done to fix anything. It's been almost a years since the last update.
I've also had vBulletin support argue with me over my suggestions to fix the issues I've been experiencing. I feel like they are working against me all the time.
If you are considering getting any vBulletin products, I would advise against doing so for at least a couple years. Al least until you can see whether they are able to turn themselves around or not.
Weare Borg found this review useful
As a long time user of vBulletin software, 3.x was a dream... it was an amazing peice of software (especially for it's time).
vBulletin 4.x was okay... it worked, but it wasn't a big upgrade.
vBulletin 5.0 is hands down the worst piece of software I've seen from any point of view. Their "showcase" website takes 30 seconds or so to load after upgrading to 5.0 and not a single part of the site works right. It's a complete joke now and we were forced to migrate our site away from vBulletin software because of it.
We are still using vBulletin 3.8 having been a vBulletin customer since 2001.
It used to be the market leading software with good reason,
but in 2009 the original development team left (all but one) and the replacement coding and management team has been very poor.
What was needed in 2009 was a complete rewrite.
However vBulletin 4 was vBulletin 3 with code 'updates', and vBulletin 5 connect is vBulletin 4 with code 'updates'.
It took years before vBulletin 4 was considered a reasonable forum solution, and vBulletin 5 is truly terrible. Way too many queries and css definitions. Full of bugs just like vB4 was on release.
We're migrating away from vBulletin as soon as possible, having seen that vBulletin 5 is not a viable product.
In summary. vBulletin used to be the best. Now it's terrible. AVOID.
Would you trust a company that instructs its staff members to submit fake reviews?
There was a time when vBulletin arguably provided the best forum solution out there. Unfortunately those days are long gone. The software in its latest incarnation, vBulletin 5 Connect, is truly dreadful, undoubtedly the worst forum software on the market today. There are free to use solutions such as SMF which are streets ahead.
vBulletin 5 is almost featureless, it's tortuously slow and without a doubt it is the most bug ridden software I have ever used. To put some perspective on the matter, vBulletin's own Xtreme marketeer and author of one of the fake reviews here, Lawrence L Cole II, had the following to say about their flagship release:
'Coming out of beta shouldn't be viewed as a recommendation to do a production upgrade of an existing forum earlier than is warranted by the current versus future capabilities of vBulletin 5 Connect.'
In other words, it's not currently fit for purpose.
To sum up, I've been a vBulletin customer for over 10 years, I use their products on a daily basis. What was once a product I'd recommend without hesitation I'd now say avoid like the plague.
The vB4 product was thought to be the worst forum product available for purchase ever released, until vB5.
All products have bugs, and there are attempts to remove them. vB5 has had 28 BETA releases, and still has obvious "top of the fold" bugs, and has less features than vB4.
Instead of working on the bugs, and speed issues, a full assault on marketing and PR spin has started.
As of 2/25/2013, Lawrence Cole (chief Xtreme Marketing guru) has failed to make any public announcement about vB5's release. He even fails to call the release "Gold", just more simply "Out Of Beta". These are private comments to registered customers, not available to the general public.
It's clear that vBulletin is content to take money from non-English reading customers, and eventually, more money from them in support licenses.
Adam Dresch found this review useful
Please note, IB/VB staff were apparently asked to post reviews here of their own product.
To quote Wayne Luke, the Technical Support Lead:
"Staff were asked to make posts there. I don't know if they reviewed the guidelines. I am surprised that there is a review in my name though."
A few of the "reviews" have already been removed or flagged.
Don't believe everything you read here.
Now, as far as reviewing Vbulletin goes, you only need to read the wikipedia entry here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBulletin
Read the criticism of Vb4, and now imagine the release of Vb5 being 10X worse
That's the kind of product Vbulletin has degraded to
It's buggy, unfinished, unpolished, lacks many major features, such as CMS, Member list, Infractions, Paid subs, the ignore system doesn't work, the last post info doesn't work right, it's incredibly slow and it causes browsers, both on desktops and mobiles, to lag and occasionally freeze and this is the "Gold" product.
Given that most of the reviews for vbulletin happened over a few week period and quite a few were by staff members and the testing team, I wouldn't believe anything written on this page.
vBulletin is a hell hole. I really dont need to say any more. If you are stupid enough to buy a license from them then more fool you.
All I will say is look into their custom reviews (the real ones, not the fake ones on here). You'll quickly see why large customers such as digitalpoint.com, ign.com and avforums.com are/have moved away from vBulletin.
The product is seemingly no longer released when its stable, its released on a fixed date. So if its not finished, its still released.
vB 5.0.0 was released earlier this week. It's been a 100% failure. Even the most basic of features are gone, and its riddled with bugs. Their solution? Buy it now for a "massive" $25 discount and then in the future they may fix the problems.
The marketing spin speaks of vB5.0.0 being the best forum software around, despite basic features such as infractions, proper moderation, proper mobile support and such being absent.
When the developers miss something as obvious as a poll managing to work out that 10+10 = 21 then you know that there is something not quite right with the way the software is being managed.
Oh and then there's the lawsuit. Internet Brands (owners of vBulletin) tried sueing XenForo, a competitor started by former employees. Have a quick look into this and you'll see that so far everything they have claimed against XenForo and its developers has been complete fud.
Bottom of the line, the company is scum. They locked down the licensed customer feedback so you cant see all the complaints. The forum is full of them.
Use XenForo or Invision - both are made by way better development teams and dont fob you off with lies.
There are many arguments on which forum software is the best... I'm here to voice my opinion after serving over 400 forum clients from around the world. vB is hands down the best. If you are serious about developing a community with a reliable, well supported (company and community) and versatile forum software, then vB is there for you.
There are many other companies that produce forum software, but none has the tradition, well funded resources, experience and drive to improve like vBulletin.
We had MANY clients that end up migrating their forum to vB after they spent many valuable time and resources on other forum software and later discover that vB is still the best.
If you want to focus on the business of running a community with a solid software then look no more!!
vBulletin is the first choice for people wanting to administer an online community. Straightforward enough for a beginner to pick up and start using, but with the functionality for power users to really get under the hood. The active modification community at vbulletin.org has produced hundreds of free modifications and styles, all available to licensed customers.
With a skilled team of Support Staff and a large community of vbulletin forum admins, there's always somebody who can answer your questions or give feedback.
If you are considering starting a forum, vBulletin is the software to use!
I have only had positive experiences with vBulletin, It is easy to use and very customizable. The admin control panel provides numerous settings to fine tune how your community works and looks.
On serveral occassions I decided on another forum software when starting a new community, but I always keep gravitating back to vBulletin Due to it's widespread use, it is very easy to find a theme or an addon for your community, as there are many out there. There also exists a semi-official modification site hosting thousands of styles and modifications, it can be found at www.vbulletin.org.
We started in 2004 to build up a community related to photographers and photographic topics and discovered vbulletin forum software. 8 years later we can say that this choice was the best idea our developers ever had.
After 8 years starting the main course with vbulletin we are still on vbulletin and our numerous visitors and members are not only still happy with this solution but love it. And we think that this is the most important thing for an online presentation. Your visitors and, if you need a business solution as well and simultaneously, your customers are the main targets for your activities.
But above all you also need a secure solution for your community and for us specially a good service and support is necessary for our internet business.
So we recommend vbulletin software as the first choice for you to build up a stable and comfortable communication platform for your members and commercial business!
After many years of dealing with vBulletin I decided to leave them for XenForo.
The current software state is terrible, there has not been any major development with vB4, and vB5 is dreadful, I am not going to recommend vBulletin products or services anymore because their management is terrible and JIRA is hideous. Look at the amount of bugs on vB4 and vB5, it's shameful.
Then they had the audacity to convert their main boards to vB5, making impossible to use the search function. They advertised over 150 new features, but besides Site Builder I've not seen a single new feature.
vBulletin is not going to be going anywhere with Internet Brands backing them.
I love XenForo and what they stand for, hell they made more progression in the last 3 months than vBulletin in the last 2 years!
This shows how vBulletin is ran as a company.
Most likely this review is not going to do anything anywhere, but oh well, if there are readers out there, I would suggest staying away from vBulletin as a whole and move on to better products such as XenForo or Invision Power Board.
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